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Seven Questions for a Working Disciple

Received from a subjective source during meditation.

We are to determine whether or not you are being trained as a working disciple.  This has many parts and each part needs to be reflected upon not as a person but as a soul as working disciples are souls.

This section of discovery requires you to reflect upon seven (7) questions taken from an ancient manual on discipleship.  Each of these questions relates to one or other of the seven (7) initiations but they also relate to each initiation.

 

Seven Questions for a Working Disciple:

1. The minds of disciples are filled with inquire that relates to the sufferings of mankind. All these sufferings have one cause and one cure what are these?

2. The lives of disciples reflect three ancient truths; each of these truths are three-fold and all who possess them are liberated. What are     these truths?

3. The activities of disciples are an admixture or a blending or seven forces and within each one there resides a discernible pattern or ancient formula. Also, each of these seven forces is inherent within all created forms. Once they are discovered within you, and in a certain order, how are they used and for what purpose?

4. The world of the disciple registers timelessness and also being, within each disciple is found two things—one is a pot of gold and the other is a winged foot, there are other things but these two are needed most at this stage, why and what does it have to do with working discipleship?

5. The duty of a disciple is three-fold and each of these is also six-fold. Within each disciple there is found three things which will cause his enlightenment, why and what does it have to do with working discipleship?

6. The heart of a disciple is composed of four chambers; each of these chambers resonates with one of the four Beatific Sounds. Each one of these sounds vibrates when the wind blows from east to north, from east to south, from north to west, and from north to south, why and what does it have to do with working discipleship?

7. The word of disciples is found within his soul, but it is also found everywhere, why and how are you to use this in your work?

It is apparent that reflection is needed to cognize the intent of these rhetorical questions for oneself but what is needed most is the presence of the soul. For each who reads this there will be a resonance of one or other of these questions for the soul has contemplated these and has identified with some more than others. For each of you there will be an answer that will be uncertain or one with great conviction—you will know which.

Let us take some time to investigate these questions now but first let us meditate on them first before you read on as our insights will color your own.  Suggested to take one at a time in the order given (and also if you can discern the reason for the order they are given in then you are well versed in the science of the soul) and spend one day reflecting on a question.

 

I. Let us take the first question: The minds of disciples are filled with inquire that relates to the sufferings of mankind.  All these sufferings have one cause and one cure what are these? First of all, I would like to tell you a story of a master who at a time in his training was presented with answering this question.

His reply to this was as follows – paraphrased: “Fortunately, I was then seen as a promising disciple and all who knew me believed I was destined for greatness. And at that time, I began to recite my answer I withdrew into myself to sense the truth of this and lo and behold what I found was not the answer but yet another set of questions. Three questions to be exact. The first was whether or not I could adequately answer the intent of the question. The second was whether or not I had the experience yet to perceive real human suffering. The third was whether or not I had the necessary understanding to perceive causes for this.”

The working disciple is able to render an intelligent answer to this question not by knowledge but by dedication to humanity. This means his humanness is foremost before him and anchored deeply in his psyche. This also means his responsibility for the human race is his and his alone as he both identifies his soul infusing personality with humanity and his spirit with the One Life.  This also means he is not set apart from the challenges of those around him nor is he not available to them and can be invoked by them on their behalf. And finally, it means humanity as a unit is perceived by him with its real needs and with all of its problems and virtues.

 

II. Let us now take up the second question to give more insight into it from a working disciple’s point of view.  The lives of disciples reflect three ancient truths; each of these truths are three fold and all who possess them are liberated.  What are these truths?

A master once said to me and I quote “You have received much knowledge of things and likewise much assistance, I ask you what you have made of it all?  What value has it been to you this day?

I thought about it for a while and wondered from within my heart why this question was given to me as my form of service is in part the writing of spiritual related information for others.

Two thoughts came into my mind from my heart and my group soul: First, that my writing style was too material and did not represent the realer truth. And secondly, that my ability to understand what I have been given was inappropriate and lacked truth, reverence, heart, inspiration, will to goodness, and lacked feeling.

I realized the truth of this for my fifth and third ray mental emphasis prevented me from presenting material correctly. I also realized that my ability to create well organized and detailed deductive thought-forms was working against me in this capacity. I also realized that to be able to appropriately present this information I would need to recreate my style of writing to include the softer and more abstract rays and in this capacity, I am yet struggling to do so.

The disciples who read this will understand the reason I included this above story as within it is the hint needed to answer this question. For all of us there is that next step forward in discovering our truer purpose.  There is waiting for all of us our next step forward in the discovery of those values we need to hold and demonstrate.  For all of us there are those divine characteristics that will define us and our unique path.

 

III. Let us now take up the third question: The activities of disciples are an admixture or a blending or seven forces and within each one there resides a discernible pattern or ancient formula.  Also, each of these seven forces is inherent within all created forms. Once they are discovered within you, and in a certain order, how then are they to be used and for what purpose?

The master again spoke to me in respect to my livingness and I paraphrase “What are the sounds that symbolize a working disciple, where are there origins derived from?

I thought about it for a while and wondered from within my heart why this question was given to me?  An answer came to me that the sounds a working disciple hears when his work is successful is “Blessings” in some form from “Divine Mother” or 3rd Logos. I finally realized that this “Sound” is consistent in all those times the Work went as needed and that when it did not then no such “Sound” followed.  I further realized that any evaluation or objective that did not receive this “Sound” was unfinished and required deeper awareness or Service.

 

IV. Let us now take up question four: The world of the disciple registers timelessness and also being, within each disciple is found two things—one is a pot of gold and the other is a winged foot, there are other things but these two are needed most at this stage, why and what does it have to do with working discipleship?

Note: For all of those desiring to be working disciples:

–The now moment is the only time we have.

–Service is.

–Love is.

–Beingness is the fruit.

–Divine order is the rule.

–The plan is changed instantly.

–Sacrifices are.

–Gifts and abilities awaken in the moment.

 

The master once told me that before I could take my next level of initiation, I was required to do the following: Save three souls. Start an ashram based upon my form of service. Train others to take my place. Be myself at all times.

I already had some indication that this was true based upon my karma and my previous knowledge. I also knew that for me it would be most difficult as I had no real human desire to do so but I also knew that I had already started an ashram on inner personality and soul levels and was training souls.

Within this world there are three avenues of ascension, one can ascend through understanding of causation, one can ascend through wisdom, and one can ascend through Grace. Each of these is acceptable Grace is the quickest, wisdom next and finally understanding of causative patterns.

 

V. Let us now explicate the fifth question: The duty of a disciple is three-fold and each of these is also six-fold. Within each disciple there is found three things which will cause his enlightenment, why and what does it have to do with working discipleship?

Again, the master once told me (soul) before me stretched many forms from past lives that I had been responsible for creating.  He then indicated that I needed to better understand their nature or the reasons I recreated them.  I did not take his advice as I was busy doing other tasks, I believed was more important. Thus, this is incomplete from the point of view of the group soul.

 

VI. Let us take up the sixth question: The heart of a disciple is composed of four chambers; each of these chambers resonates with one of the four Beatific Sounds.  Each one of these sounds vibrates when the wind blows from east to north, from east to south, from north to west, and from north to south, why and what does it have to do with working discipleship?

 

VII. Let us take up the seventh question: The word of disciples is found within his soul but it is also found everywhere, why and how are you to use this in your work?

 

All impressions posted herein, denoted and summarized were soul impacted from subjective sources and were mentally registered, organized, recorded, and brain conceptualized, and given contextual composition language. All interpretations of the impression sources herein are the responsibility of the recorder/composer – H.Z.

 

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